Category: labour

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Jeremy Corbyn inching closer to backing a seco…

Jeremy Corbyn inching closer to backing a second referendum:

I mean yeah, take your time mate. Not like we’re on the bloody clock or anything. 

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John McDonnell pictured wearing a grass skirt

Labour slumps in polls as Tories open biggest …

Labour slumps in polls as Tories open biggest lead since general election:

…fucking HOW!?

How the fuck are the Tories managing to actually gain in the opinion polls right now!?

What the actual fuck, Britain?

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Pass Brexit deal and fall behind Lib Dems, vot…

Pass Brexit deal and fall behind Lib Dems, voters tell Corbyn in poll:

Labour would fall behind the Liberal Democrats in the polls if Jeremy Corbyn helps the Tories to secure Brexit, according to a huge new poll.

The YouGov survey of 5,000 voters, commissioned by the People’s Vote campaign, shows that support for Labour could fall from 36% to 22% if they helped the Tories to pass a compromise deal with Brussels like the one advocated by Theresa May.

Under those circumstances, the Lib Dems would soar from 10% to 26% — their highest rating in any poll since they entered coalition government with the Tories in 2010.

I know this is the textbook example of ‘shit to take with mountains of salt’ but I just found it kind of interesting as a possibility in the ever-ongoing saga of “weird Brexit-related shit we’re stuck having to deal with right now.”

People who say there’s no difference between Labour and the Tories on Brexit are lying through their teeth


People keep misleadingly claiming that there’s absolutely no difference between Labour and the Tories on Brexit, and even that there’s nothing to indicate that a Labour Brexit would be any less harmful than a Tory one!

In reality there’s an absolute mountain of evidence from the last 30 months of chaos that it couldn’t possibly be anything like as bad as the Tories running Brexit exclusively for their own selfish party political interests.

I’m certainly not advocating a Labour Brexit in this article, in fact I feel they should move position at some point in the near future towards offering a “cancel Brexit” vs “back to square one and try again” referendum. However I’m so utterly sick of the despicable campaign of lies from disingenuous Remainer fanatics that I need to point out just how dishonest they’re being when they pretend there’s no difference between Labour and the Tories on Brexit. 

  • Labour have repeatedly assured the public that they would never deliberately trigger a disastrous “no deal” meltdown like Theresa May keeps threatening, because they say it’s “the worst possible deal for Britain”. So at least this devastating nightmare scenario would be completely off the table under a Labour/progressive coalition government.
  • The fact that under a Labour/progressive coalition government the highly competent Keir Starmer would be in charge of the Brexit negotiations instead of a succession of absolute Tory numbskulls like David Davis and Dominic Raab. Even if you don’t like Brexit surely it makes sense to have someone competent and intelligent in charge of Britain’s side of the negotiations instead of a parade of utterly dense Tories?
  • The fact that if Labour or a progressive coalition were put in the position of trying to negotiate Brexit (if a repeat EU referendum was lost by the Remainers for example), at least they’d do it with a good faith cooperative approach rather than repeating Theresa May’s bad faith threats and tantrums, or idiotic Tory ministers mouthing off to the British press about how they plan to renege on the agreements they’ve just signed up to (as if they imagine that Europeans can’t read English or browse the Internet)!
  • Far from “enabling Tory Brexit” as many Remain extremists allege, Labour has repeatedly voted against the Tory government in practically every single Brexit related vote in parliament. Consider Labour’s Amendment 58 to the EU Withdrawal Bill as just one of many examples of firm Labour opposition to shifty hard-right Tory Brexit scheming.
  • The fact that Labour (and other opposition parties) voted against Theresa May’s EU Withdrawal legislation because it did not protect workers’ rights, environmental laws, food standards, consumer protections, and freedom from discrimination. A Labour/progressive coalition government would work to enshrine these rights and protections into UK law.
  • The fact that under Corbyn Labour policy is being handed back to the membership. If the Labour membership vote for a second referendum, or vote for assurances that Labour would remain in the Single Market, that’s what Labour would do.
  • The fact that the majority of Labour members are strongly opposed to a “no deal” Brexit, while a hefty (and rapidly increasing) proportion of Tory members are of the Brextremist blue-kip headbanger persuasion.
  • The fact that Labour have been very careful not to rule out the option of another Brexit referendum. They’re not promising one yet, but they’re also not ruling one out either if the Tory Brexit shambles continues to get worse (which seems inevitable). Given that Theresa May’s deal is dead in the water and a “no deal” meltdown is unthinkable, a referendum with the options of “cancel Brexit” or “back to square one” would seem like the most sensible approach from a strategic perspective.
  • Labour’s repeatedly stated but widely ignored six tests.

Of course it’s entirely fair to argue that “no Brexit” is still a better option than a Labour Brexit (an argument I’d actually agree with at this point), but anyone trying to argue that there’s no evidence that a Tory Brexit would be worse than a Labour one is brazenly lying through their teeth for ideological purposes (making them no better than the Tory Brextremists who created this atrocious mess in the first place with their deliberate campaign of politically motivated lies).

It doesn’t matter whether these people are lying through pure ignorance, through tribalist loyalty to the Lib-Dems, or just because they saw the Brextremists win the 2016 referendum with their outrageous campaign of lies so they’re adopting the same tactics for themselves.

Outright lying degrades the political discourse and drives political apathy. And it’s utterly unacceptable no matter who is doing it, or for what purpose.

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